[Monetdb-developers] MonetDB seems not to list FreeBSD as a supported platform
Hello, As the subject says MonetDB web site does not list FreeBSD as a supported platform for MonetDB. Neither was I able to find MonetDB in the FreeBSD ports tree (/usr/ports/databases). Is there some portability issue which prevents that or is it only due to lack of time and/or resources? Cheers, // jau .--- ..- -.- -.- .- .- .-.-.- ..- -.- -.- --- -. . -. / Jukka A. Ukkonen, Oxit Ltd, Finland /__ M.Sc. (sw-eng & cs) (Phone) +358-500-606-671 / Internet: Jukka.Ukkonen(a)Oxit.Fi (Home) +358-9-6215-280 / Internet: jau(a)iki.fi v .--- .- ..- ...-.- .. -.- .. .-.-.- ..-. .. + + + + My opinions are mine and mine alone, not my employers. + + + +
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 09:37:22AM +0300, Jukka A. Ukkonen wrote:
Hello,
As the subject says MonetDB web site does not list FreeBSD as a supported platform for MonetDB. Neither was I able to find MonetDB in the FreeBSD ports tree (/usr/ports/databases). Is there some portability issue which prevents that or is it only due to lack of time and/or resources?
We did try once and fixed the problems we found then. But we do not currently have access on a FreeBSD machine and therefor cannot run our nightly testing easily. So its a lack of time and/or resources. We are afcourse allways interested in geting MonetDB part of distributions or extra components to distributions (like FreeBSD ports is ?). Niels
Cheers, // jau .--- ..- -.- -.- .- .- .-.-.- ..- -.- -.- --- -. . -. / Jukka A. Ukkonen, Oxit Ltd, Finland /__ M.Sc. (sw-eng & cs) (Phone) +358-500-606-671 / Internet: Jukka.Ukkonen(a)Oxit.Fi (Home) +358-9-6215-280 / Internet: jau(a)iki.fi v .--- .- ..- ...-.- .. -.- .. .-.-.- ..-. .. + + + + My opinions are mine and mine alone, not my employers. + + + +
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On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 08:46:46AM +0200, Niels Nes wrote:
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 09:37:22AM +0300, Jukka A. Ukkonen wrote:
Hello,
As the subject says MonetDB web site does not list FreeBSD as a supported platform for MonetDB. Neither was I able to find MonetDB in the FreeBSD ports tree (/usr/ports/databases). Is there some portability issue which prevents that or is it only due to lack of time and/or resources?
We did try once and fixed the problems we found then. But we do not currently have access on a FreeBSD machine and therefor cannot run our nightly testing easily. So its a lack of time and/or resources.
Of course, we're also inerested in getting (remote access to) systems that are not yet in our nightly testing pool (cf. http://monetdb.cwi.nl/Development/TestWeb/Platforms/), like e.g., FreeBSD ;-) In principle, MonetDB 4.10.2 (and higher) should compile and work also on FreeBSD, however lacking (access to) a respective system, we cannot test this ourselves. To "support" FreeBSD, we'd need remote ssh access to such a system, ~1GB temporary disk space and the "right" to run nightly (0:00 CET - ~8:00 CET) tests. Cheers, Stefan
We are afcourse allways interested in geting MonetDB part of distributions or extra components to distributions (like FreeBSD ports is ?).
Niels
Cheers, // jau .--- ..- -.- -.- .- .- .-.-.- ..- -.- -.- --- -. . -. / Jukka A. Ukkonen, Oxit Ltd, Finland /__ M.Sc. (sw-eng & cs) (Phone) +358-500-606-671 / Internet: Jukka.Ukkonen(a)Oxit.Fi (Home) +358-9-6215-280 / Internet: jau(a)iki.fi v .--- .- ..- ...-.- .. -.- .. .-.-.- ..-. .. + + + + My opinions are mine and mine alone, not my employers. + + + +
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Quoting Stefan Manegold:
We did try once and fixed the problems we found then. But we do not currently have access on a FreeBSD machine and therefor cannot run our nightly testing easily. So its a lack of time and/or resources.
Have you asked any of the mailing lists freebsd-questions@, freebsd-database@ or freebsd-ports@ mailing lists. Regrettably I cannot offer a test platform myself for the time being, but some people on those mailing lists might be able to help you. I did a quick "make ; make check" and at least that did not whine awfully much compare to the number of test it did. Anyhow eventually the test complained in relatively strong words... !ERROR: Testing FAILED SIGNIFICANTLY ! 1 out of 296 tests could not be executed 2 out of 296 tests produced slightly different output 4 out of 296 tests produced SIGNIFICANTLY different output Since my test environment was a dual processor system I can confirm that lt-Mserver was occasionally using about 120% of one processor cpu time. So, it seems to be able to split its work load to multiple cpus. Have you done any other documented performance comparisons with lets say postgresql but the one table shown in http://monetdb.cwi.nl/Research/Benchmarks/ The figures in there are very promising indeed. It would be nice to see similar tables compiled about multiple tests stressing different features. It would also make a world of difference to anyone who is not really so much a database expert, if the nature and content of the tests were explained in more detail. Cheers, // jau .--- ..- -.- -.- .- .- .-.-.- ..- -.- -.- --- -. . -. / Jukka A. Ukkonen, Oxit Ltd, Finland /__ M.Sc. (sw-eng & cs) (Phone) +358-500-606-671 / Internet: Jukka.Ukkonen(a)Oxit.Fi (Home) +358-9-6215-280 / Internet: jau(a)iki.fi v .--- .- ..- ...-.- .. -.- .. .-.-.- ..-. .. + + + + My opinions are mine and mine alone, not my employers. + + + +
Jukka A. Ukkonen wrote:
Quoting Stefan Manegold:
I did a quick "make ; make check" and at least that did not whine awfully much compare to the number of test it did. Anyhow eventually the test complained in relatively strong words...
!ERROR: Testing FAILED SIGNIFICANTLY !
1 out of 296 tests could not be executed 2 out of 296 tests produced slightly different output 4 out of 296 tests produced SIGNIFICANTLY different output This is very promising. Some tests are bound to fail. If you can sent their 'names', we can check it against our set.
Have you done any other documented performance comparisons with lets say postgresql but the one table shown in
These experiments are quite old. A student is working on a community performance benchmarking portal, which would make automatic comparison on many issues and many platforms more easy. Doing all performance evaluation at one site with many systems just doesn't scale ;-) regards, Martin
The figures in there are very promising indeed. It would be nice to see similar tables compiled about multiple tests stressing different features. It would also make a world of difference to anyone who is not really so much a database expert, if the nature and content of the tests were explained in more detail.
Cheers, // jau .--- ..- -.- -.- .- .- .-.-.- ..- -.- -.- --- -. . -. / Jukka A. Ukkonen, Oxit Ltd, Finland /__ M.Sc. (sw-eng & cs) (Phone) +358-500-606-671 / Internet: Jukka.Ukkonen(a)Oxit.Fi (Home) +358-9-6215-280 / Internet: jau(a)iki.fi v .--- .- ..- ...-.- .. -.- .. .-.-.- ..-. .. + + + + My opinions are mine and mine alone, not my employers. + + + +
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On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 12:46:53PM +0200, Martin Kersten wrote:
Jukka A. Ukkonen wrote:
I did a quick "make ; make check" and at least that did not whine awfully much compare to the number of test it did. Anyhow eventually the test complained in relatively strong words...
!ERROR: Testing FAILED SIGNIFICANTLY !
1 out of 296 tests could not be executed 2 out of 296 tests produced slightly different output 4 out of 296 tests produced SIGNIFICANTLY different output This is very promising. Some tests are bound to fail. If you can sent their 'names', we can check it against our set.
... or simply see http://monetdb.cwi.nl/Development/TestWeb/ (or directly http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/MonetDB/.mTests103/ind... http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Current/MonetDB/.mTests103/in... ) for the latest status of our nightly testing --- all tests that fail for the "Stable" version are minor issues on "odd" platforms; all test that fail for the "Current" version are reminders for known/open/to-be-fixed bugs. Stefan -- | Dr. Stefan Manegold | mailto:Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl | | CWI, P.O.Box 94079 | http://www.cwi.nl/~manegold/ | | 1090 GB Amsterdam | Tel.: +31 (20) 592-4212 | | The Netherlands | Fax : +31 (20) 592-4312 |
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