Re: [Monetdb-developers] [Monetdb-sql-checkins] sql/src/backends/monet4 sql_server.mx, , 1.169, 1.170
Ok, before we start changing these things back and forth: Anyone else who has an opinion on how M4 (server), M5 (server), SQL4, SQL5, XQuery(4) should reveal their version numbers at startup-/module-loading time, and whether the differences between M4 & M5 should/need to be increased by having different/non-aligned/"inconsistend" welcome messages? Stefan On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 08:49:25AM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 13-07-2007 21:33:50 +0000, Stefan Manegold wrote:
Update of /cvsroot/monetdb/sql/src/backends/monet4 In directory sc8-pr-cvs16.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv15825/sql/src/backends/monet4
Modified Files: sql_server.mx Log Message:
I do not argue about the exact wording, but let's at least (try to) keep it aligned/consistent
Can you please undo this commit? On purpose I do NOT want it to be aligned, because I want to see a clear distinction between MonetDB 5 and MonetDB 4. I'd like it when M4 would annouce itself as MonetDB Database Server for that same reason. (i.e. reverting that earlier commit as well)
There is absolutely no need to make it harder to see what engine you're dealing with. MonetDB 5 should and must (IMO) look different, newer, better and more advanced. (Because it is.)
So please, don't align M4 with M5.
Index: sql_server.mx =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/monetdb/sql/src/backends/monet4/sql_server.mx,v retrieving revision 1.169 retrieving revision 1.170 diff -u -d -r1.169 -r1.170 --- sql_server.mx 13 Jul 2007 15:35:58 -0000 1.169 +++ sql_server.mx 13 Jul 2007 21:33:48 -0000 1.170 @@ -1579,5 +1579,4 @@
sql_server_start(); if (monet_environment.find("monet_welcome") = "yes") - printf("%c MonetDB/SQL Server v2.19.0 on port %s\n", - int(35), monet_environment.find("mapi_port")); + printf("%c MonetDB/SQL module v2.19.0 loaded\n", int(35));
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On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 09:08:55AM +0200, Stefan Manegold wrote:
Ok, before we start changing these things back and forth:
Anyone else who has an opinion on how M4 (server), M5 (server), SQL4, SQL5, XQuery(4) should reveal their version numbers at startup-/module-loading time, and whether the differences between M4 & M5 should/need to be increased by having different/non-aligned/"inconsistend" welcome messages?
I'd prefer consistend version output, thats better for scripts testing version numbers. Niels
Stefan
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 08:49:25AM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 13-07-2007 21:33:50 +0000, Stefan Manegold wrote:
Update of /cvsroot/monetdb/sql/src/backends/monet4 In directory sc8-pr-cvs16.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv15825/sql/src/backends/monet4
Modified Files: sql_server.mx Log Message:
I do not argue about the exact wording, but let's at least (try to) keep it aligned/consistent
Can you please undo this commit? On purpose I do NOT want it to be aligned, because I want to see a clear distinction between MonetDB 5 and MonetDB 4. I'd like it when M4 would annouce itself as MonetDB Database Server for that same reason. (i.e. reverting that earlier commit as well)
There is absolutely no need to make it harder to see what engine you're dealing with. MonetDB 5 should and must (IMO) look different, newer, better and more advanced. (Because it is.)
So please, don't align M4 with M5.
Index: sql_server.mx =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/monetdb/sql/src/backends/monet4/sql_server.mx,v retrieving revision 1.169 retrieving revision 1.170 diff -u -d -r1.169 -r1.170 --- sql_server.mx 13 Jul 2007 15:35:58 -0000 1.169 +++ sql_server.mx 13 Jul 2007 21:33:48 -0000 1.170 @@ -1579,5 +1579,4 @@
sql_server_start(); if (monet_environment.find("monet_welcome") = "yes") - printf("%c MonetDB/SQL Server v2.19.0 on port %s\n", - int(35), monet_environment.find("mapi_port")); + printf("%c MonetDB/SQL module v2.19.0 loaded\n", int(35));
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On 14-07-2007 09:43:49 +0200, Niels Nes wrote:
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 09:08:55AM +0200, Stefan Manegold wrote:
Ok, before we start changing these things back and forth:
Anyone else who has an opinion on how M4 (server), M5 (server), SQL4, SQL5, XQuery(4) should reveal their version numbers at startup-/module-loading time, and whether the differences between M4 & M5 should/need to be increased by having different/non-aligned/"inconsistend" welcome messages?
Face it. The architecture is inconsistent. In M4 your "on port " message was sort of correct and useful, while on M5 this is incorrect/irrelevant.
I'd prefer consistend version output, thats better for scripts testing version numbers.
Scripts that parse commentary lines are doomed to fail.
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 10:03:32AM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 14-07-2007 09:43:49 +0200, Niels Nes wrote:
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 09:08:55AM +0200, Stefan Manegold wrote:
Ok, before we start changing these things back and forth:
Anyone else who has an opinion on how M4 (server), M5 (server), SQL4, SQL5, XQuery(4) should reveal their version numbers at startup-/module-loading time, and whether the differences between M4 & M5 should/need to be increased by having different/non-aligned/"inconsistend" welcome messages?
Face it. The architecture is inconsistent. In M4 your "on port " message was sort of correct and useful, while on M5 this is incorrect/irrelevant. Why ?
Niels
I'd prefer consistend version output, thats better for scripts testing version numbers.
Scripts that parse commentary lines are doomed to fail.
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On 14-07-2007 10:06:35 +0200, Niels Nes wrote:
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 10:03:32AM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 14-07-2007 09:43:49 +0200, Niels Nes wrote:
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 09:08:55AM +0200, Stefan Manegold wrote:
Ok, before we start changing these things back and forth:
Anyone else who has an opinion on how M4 (server), M5 (server), SQL4, SQL5, XQuery(4) should reveal their version numbers at startup-/module-loading time, and whether the differences between M4 & M5 should/need to be increased by having different/non-aligned/"inconsistend" welcome messages?
Face it. The architecture is inconsistent. In M4 your "on port " message was sort of correct and useful, while on M5 this is incorrect/irrelevant. Why ?
Because if you use auto-sensing, then the port may be something else. Something that M5 + Sabaoth + Merovingian heavily depends on. That's why Sabaoth now prints the connection that actually is used on M5 to do the equivalence of Stefan's original "on port %d" message.
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