Hi, Once more http://thefutureofthings.com/news/43/laser-hard-drives-on-the-horizon.html Dariusz. dariuszs wrote:
Hi, Thanks. By the way, speaking of memory, maybe not a big problem in the near future, at least 2 solutions, check it out.
http://www.fusionio.com/Products.aspx http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/15/laser-hard-drives-boast-1tbits-s-access-t...
Dariusz.
Peter Boncz wrote:
No. 2 billion is related to 32-bits OIDs only.
-----Original Message----- From: dariuszs [mailto:dariuszs@svnp.com] Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:25 PM To: P.Boncz@cwi.nl Cc: Communication channel for MonetDB users Subject: Re: [MonetDB-users] disk usage
Hi, Is the 2 billion records also a limit with 64bit oids? Dariusz.
Peter Boncz wrote:
The effect of the more compact storage only marginally affects direct performance (for the better). The big win is that it reduces RAM
consumption
when query processing. This means that where MonetDB performance suffers with 64-bits oids due to swapping when you use datasets that just do not
fit
your memory, the reduced storage of 32-bits oids may avoid avoid this problem. You can also say that you need less RAM to make MonetDB fast. Memory consumption may be reduced to 70% or even 50% in (rare) extreme cases.
However, it will not work with columns with many tuples (2*1024*1024*1024 being the hard limit) or huge string columns (where all string data of a single column exceeds 32GB).
-----Original Message----- From: dariuszs [mailto:dariuszs@svnp.com] Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:52 PM To: Communication channel for MonetDB users Subject: Re: [MonetDB-users] disk usage
Hi, That makes sense, now does the performance suffer with 64bit object ids, when you have to go thru more storage? Dariusz.
Peter Boncz wrote:
since the last release, there is a storage/memory consumption
optimization
in
place when using the configure option --enable-oid32, which causes tables
to be
restricted to 2Gtuples, but leads to smaller data storage for surrogate
keys
(oids). As a second effect, this configure setting also enables a more
compact
string heap organization (restricting the amount of string data in a
single
column to 32GB).
windows is configured by default with --enable-oid32
If you can live with these restrictions, you can also compile/get linux
MonetDB
binaries with --enable-oid32
-----Original Message----- From: Ying Zhang [mailto:Y.Zhang@cwi.nl] Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:01 PM To: Communication channel for MonetDB users Subject: Re: [MonetDB-users] disk usage
Hello Dariusz,
The first thing came to my mind is the bits system. I guess your windows is 32bits, while your linux is 64 bits. Since, on 32bits systems, 'long', 'long int', oids and pointers are 4 bytes; while on they are 8 bytes. Thus, you data will most probably take more storage on a 64bits system, than on a 32bits system. How many more it is, depends on the type of your columns.
Regards,
Jennie
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:35:52PM -0400, dariuszs wrote:
Hi, I've loaded 60 GB of data file into a table. On Windows (NTFS) the size of dbfarm changed to 80GB but on Linux (ext4 or reiserfs) dbfarm changed to 180GB. Why is that? Thanks. Dariusz.
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