[MonetDB-users] (Jdbc?) concurrency issues
Hi, I'm implementing a bit of a consumer-producer application in Java using the JDBC driver. When I use transactions in the producer & consumer, I'll frequently get the "ERROR: COMMIT: transaction is aborted because of concurency conflicts, will ROLLBACK instead" error. Not quite sure why this keeps happening. It's not like the same row is modified concurrently. The same *table* is (insert in one thread, vs delete in another). Could this be the cause of the problem? And more importantly, how do I get around this? thanks a bunch, - Bram
On 13-05-2009 14:29:52 +0200, Bram Van Dam wrote:
Hi,
I'm implementing a bit of a consumer-producer application in Java using the JDBC driver. When I use transactions in the producer & consumer, I'll frequently get the "ERROR: COMMIT: transaction is aborted because of concurency conflicts, will ROLLBACK instead" error.
Not quite sure why this keeps happening. It's not like the same row is modified concurrently. The same *table* is (insert in one thread, vs delete in another). Could this be the cause of the problem? And more importantly, how do I get around this?
MonetDB/SQL only implements fully serialisable transaction isolation. These aborts are the result of optimistic concurrency control, and there is no way to get around it (other than serialising it) in MonetDB/SQL.
Hi all, I am looking for the latest stable MonetDB release and I am a bit confused: In http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./0_la test/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.3 (03-apr-2009), x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009). In http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./2009 0514/RPMs/ I find no files at all. In http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./2009 0513/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009). Who can tell me which set of RPM files to use as the latest stable version. It looks like 2 or 3 different versions are marked "latest". Regards, Hans.
Are you looking for a release or are you looking for a build? The latest release is available at http://monetdb.cwi.nl/projects/monetdb/Download/index.html and is currently at Feb2009-SP2. Nightly builds, for which we give no guarantee whatsoever, can be found at http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./. RPMs you may find there are, however, *guaranteed* to not work properly. They are built (if the build succeeds, for which there is no guarantee) using an incorrect method, and so do not work properly. The best you can hope for is the SourceSuperBall and SourceTarBalls. Hans van Rijswijk (DT) wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking for the latest stable MonetDB release and I am a bit confused:
In http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./0_la test/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.3 (03-apr-2009), x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009).
In http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./2009 0514/RPMs/ I find no files at all.
In http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./2009 0513/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009).
Who can tell me which set of RPM files to use as the latest stable version. It looks like 2 or 3 different versions are marked "latest".
Regards, Hans.
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Hans, et al. unless you know for sure that you need a specific fix that is not in the latest official release, I strongly recommend to use (only) official releases. And as Sjoerd said, there are no guarantees for the DailyBuilds excep that the RPMs are known to be built incorrectly (we cannot fix this for automatic nightly builds). However, I also just saw that there seems to be a problem with putting nightly built tarballs into the DailyBuilds download location - since I'm on the train right now, I'll not be able to have a look at the problem and hopefully fix it before (late) tonigght or tomorrow... Stefan
Are you looking for a release or are you looking for a build? The latest release is available at http://monetdb.cwi.nl/projects/monetdb/Download/index.html and is currently at Feb2009-SP2.
Nightly builds, for which we give no guarantee whatsoever, can be found at http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./. RPMs you may find there are, however, *guaranteed* to not work properly. They are built (if the build succeeds, for which there is no guarantee) using an incorrect method, and so do not work properly.
The best you can hope for is the SourceSuperBall and SourceTarBalls.
Hans van Rijswijk (DT) wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking for the latest stable MonetDB release and I am a bit confused:
In http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./0_la test/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.3 (03-apr-2009), x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009).
In http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./2009 0514/RPMs/ I find no files at all.
In http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./2009 0513/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009).
Who can tell me which set of RPM files to use as the latest stable version. It looks like 2 or 3 different versions are marked "latest".
Regards, Hans.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com _______________________________________________ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
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Hi Stefan, Sjoerd, et al, In previous communications to the CWI, about which version to use, we were always advised (by Peter et al) to use the latest stable daily build. That's why I was looking for the latest version now. Now you tell me not to use the latest version, because it is built incorrectly. We are just looking for a version with as much as possible problems solved, and which is stable enough to use in our project. Can you also tell me when the next official (service pack) release is planned? Regards, Hans
-----Original Message----- From: Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl [mailto:Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl] Sent: donderdag 14 mei 2009 12:10 To: Communication channel for MonetDB users Cc: Communication channel for MonetDB users Subject: Re: [MonetDB-users] Looking for the latest stable MonetDB release
Hans, et al.
unless you know for sure that you need a specific fix that is not in the latest official release, I strongly recommend to use (only) official releases.
And as Sjoerd said, there are no guarantees for the DailyBuilds excep that the RPMs are known to be built incorrectly (we cannot fix this for automatic nightly builds).
However, I also just saw that there seems to be a problem with putting nightly built tarballs into the DailyBuilds download location - since I'm on the train right now, I'll not be able to have a look at the problem and hopefully fix it before (late) tonigght or tomorrow...
Stefan
Are you looking for a release or are you looking for a build? The latest release is available at http://monetdb.cwi.nl/projects/monetdb/Download/index.html and is currently at Feb2009-SP2.
Nightly builds, for which we give no guarantee whatsoever, can be found at
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./.
RPMs you may find there are, however, *guaranteed* to not work properly. They are built (if the build succeeds, for which there is no guarantee) using an incorrect method, and so do not work properly.
The best you can hope for is the SourceSuperBall and SourceTarBalls.
Hans van Rijswijk (DT) wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking for the latest stable MonetDB release and I am a bit confused:
In
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./0
_la test/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.3 (03-apr-2009), x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009).
In
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./2
009 0514/RPMs/ I find no files at all.
In
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./2
009 0513/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009).
Who can tell me which set of RPM files to use as the latest stable version. It looks like 2 or 3 different versions are marked "latest".
Regards, Hans.
--------- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com _______________________________________________ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
-- Sjoerd Mullender
----------------------------------------------------------------------
-------- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com_________________________________________
______ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
--------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com _______________________________________________ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
Hans van Rijswijk (DT) wrote:
Hi Stefan, Sjoerd, et al,
In previous communications to the CWI, about which version to use, we were always advised (by Peter et al) to use the latest stable daily build. That's why I was looking for the latest version now. Now you tell me not to use the latest version, because it is built incorrectly.
Unless you have a compelling reason to use a version which is later than the officially released one (e.g. because a problem that you run into has been fixed), you should stick to the official release. When Peter said this to you, this was probably the case, but there have been new releases since then, so you should reconsider.
We are just looking for a version with as much as possible problems solved, and which is stable enough to use in our project.
Are there any problems in the Feb2009-SP2 release that you run into?
Can you also tell me when the next official (service pack) release is planned?
The plan is still to do a feature release this month (that is, a feature release, not a bug fix release). No date has been set.
Regards, Hans
-----Original Message----- From: Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl [mailto:Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl] Sent: donderdag 14 mei 2009 12:10 To: Communication channel for MonetDB users Cc: Communication channel for MonetDB users Subject: Re: [MonetDB-users] Looking for the latest stable MonetDB release
Hans, et al.
unless you know for sure that you need a specific fix that is not in the latest official release, I strongly recommend to use (only) official releases.
And as Sjoerd said, there are no guarantees for the DailyBuilds excep that the RPMs are known to be built incorrectly (we cannot fix this for automatic nightly builds).
However, I also just saw that there seems to be a problem with putting nightly built tarballs into the DailyBuilds download location - since I'm on the train right now, I'll not be able to have a look at the problem and hopefully fix it before (late) tonigght or tomorrow...
Stefan
Are you looking for a release or are you looking for a build? The latest release is available at http://monetdb.cwi.nl/projects/monetdb/Download/index.html and is currently at Feb2009-SP2.
Nightly builds, for which we give no guarantee whatsoever, can be found at
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./.
RPMs you may find there are, however, *guaranteed* to not work properly. They are built (if the build succeeds, for which there is no guarantee) using an incorrect method, and so do not work properly.
The best you can hope for is the SourceSuperBall and SourceTarBalls.
Hans van Rijswijk (DT) wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking for the latest stable MonetDB release and I am a bit confused:
In
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./0
_la test/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.3 (03-apr-2009), x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009).
In
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./2
009 0514/RPMs/ I find no files at all.
In
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./2
009 0513/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009).
Who can tell me which set of RPM files to use as the latest stable version. It looks like 2 or 3 different versions are marked "latest". Regards, Hans.
--------- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com _______________________________________________ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
-- Sjoerd Mullender
----------------------------------------------------------------------
-------- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com_________________________________________
______ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
--------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com _______________________________________________ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com _______________________________________________ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
-- Sjoerd Mullender
Hans, thank you for reporting the unavailability of the latest nightly builds. I loated an firx the origin of the problem and as of today the latest nightly builds should be available again. Please note, though, that the comments and advice by Sjoerd and me wrt. official tested stable releases vs. nightly built snapshots do still hold, in particular for RPMs. Stefan On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 03:04:18PM +0200, Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
Hans van Rijswijk (DT) wrote:
Hi Stefan, Sjoerd, et al,
In previous communications to the CWI, about which version to use, we were always advised (by Peter et al) to use the latest stable daily build. That's why I was looking for the latest version now. Now you tell me not to use the latest version, because it is built incorrectly.
Unless you have a compelling reason to use a version which is later than the officially released one (e.g. because a problem that you run into has been fixed), you should stick to the official release. When Peter said this to you, this was probably the case, but there have been new releases since then, so you should reconsider.
We are just looking for a version with as much as possible problems solved, and which is stable enough to use in our project.
Are there any problems in the Feb2009-SP2 release that you run into?
Can you also tell me when the next official (service pack) release is planned?
The plan is still to do a feature release this month (that is, a feature release, not a bug fix release). No date has been set.
Regards, Hans
-----Original Message----- From: Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl [mailto:Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl] Sent: donderdag 14 mei 2009 12:10 To: Communication channel for MonetDB users Cc: Communication channel for MonetDB users Subject: Re: [MonetDB-users] Looking for the latest stable MonetDB release
Hans, et al.
unless you know for sure that you need a specific fix that is not in the latest official release, I strongly recommend to use (only) official releases.
And as Sjoerd said, there are no guarantees for the DailyBuilds excep that the RPMs are known to be built incorrectly (we cannot fix this for automatic nightly builds).
However, I also just saw that there seems to be a problem with putting nightly built tarballs into the DailyBuilds download location - since I'm on the train right now, I'll not be able to have a look at the problem and hopefully fix it before (late) tonigght or tomorrow...
Stefan
Are you looking for a release or are you looking for a build? The latest release is available at http://monetdb.cwi.nl/projects/monetdb/Download/index.html and is currently at Feb2009-SP2.
Nightly builds, for which we give no guarantee whatsoever, can be found at
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./.
RPMs you may find there are, however, *guaranteed* to not work properly. They are built (if the build succeeds, for which there is no guarantee) using an incorrect method, and so do not work properly.
The best you can hope for is the SourceSuperBall and SourceTarBalls.
Hans van Rijswijk (DT) wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking for the latest stable MonetDB release and I am a bit confused:
In
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./0
_la test/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.3 (03-apr-2009), x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009).
In
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./2
009 0514/RPMs/ I find no files at all.
In
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./2
009 0513/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009).
Who can tell me which set of RPM files to use as the latest stable version. It looks like 2 or 3 different versions are marked "latest". Regards, Hans.
--------- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com _______________________________________________ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
-- Sjoerd Mullender
----------------------------------------------------------------------
-------- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com_________________________________________
______ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
--------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com _______________________________________________ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com _______________________________________________ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
-- Sjoerd Mullender
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com _______________________________________________ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
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Hi Stefan,
-----Original Message----- From: Stefan Manegold [mailto:Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl] Sent: maandag 18 mei 2009 12:49 To: Communication channel for MonetDB users Subject: Re: [MonetDB-users] Looking for the latest stable MonetDB release
Hans,
thank you for reporting the unavailability of the latest nightly builds. I loated an firx the origin of the problem and as of today the latest nightly builds should be available again.
You're welcome! Good to hear that my remark helped you finding and fixing a problem.
Please note, though, that the comments and advice by Sjoerd and me wrt. official tested stable releases vs. nightly built snapshots do still hold, in particular for RPMs.
We are convinced now about the difference between the two release paths. And we will, of course, stick to your advice.
Stefan
Hans van Rijswijk (DT) wrote:
Hi Stefan, Sjoerd, et al,
In previous communications to the CWI, about which version to use, we were always advised (by Peter et al) to use the latest stable daily build. That's why I was looking for the latest version now. Now you tell me not to use the latest version, because it is built incorrectly.
Unless you have a compelling reason to use a version which is later than the officially released one (e.g. because a problem
into has been fixed), you should stick to the official release. When Peter said this to you, this was probably the case, but there have been new releases since then, so you should reconsider.
We are just looking for a version with as much as possible
solved, and which is stable enough to use in our project.
Are there any problems in the Feb2009-SP2 release that you run into?
Can you also tell me when the next official (service pack) release is planned?
The plan is still to do a feature release this month (that is, a feature release, not a bug fix release). No date has been set.
Regards, Hans
-----Original Message----- From: Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl [mailto:Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl] Sent: donderdag 14 mei 2009 12:10 To: Communication channel for MonetDB users Cc: Communication channel for MonetDB users Subject: Re: [MonetDB-users] Looking for the latest stable MonetDB release
Hans, et al.
unless you know for sure that you need a specific fix that is not in the latest official release, I strongly recommend to use (only) official releases.
And as Sjoerd said, there are no guarantees for the DailyBuilds excep that the RPMs are known to be built incorrectly (we cannot fix this for automatic nightly builds).
However, I also just saw that there seems to be a problem with putting nightly built tarballs into the DailyBuilds download location - since I'm on the train right now, I'll not be able to have a look at the problem and hopefully fix it before (late) tonigght or tomorrow...
Stefan
Are you looking for a release or are you looking for a build? The latest release is available at http://monetdb.cwi.nl/projects/monetdb/Download/index.html and is currently at Feb2009-SP2.
Nightly builds, for which we give no guarantee whatsoever, can be found at
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./.
RPMs you may find there are, however, *guaranteed* to not work properly. They are built (if the build succeeds, for which there is no guarantee) using an incorrect method, and so do not work
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 03:04:18PM +0200, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: that you run problems properly.
The best you can hope for is the SourceSuperBall and
SourceTarBalls.
Hans van Rijswijk (DT) wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking for the latest stable MonetDB release and
I am a bit
confused:
In
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds.
/0
_la test/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.3 (03-apr-2009), x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009).
In
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds.
/2
009 0514/RPMs/ I find no files at all.
In
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds.
/2
009 0513/RPMs/Fedora10.x86_64.oid64/ I find files with x.28.4 (23-apr-2009), x.28.5 (01-may-2009).
Who can tell me which set of RPM files to use as the latest stable version. It looks like 2 or 3 different versions are marked "latest". Regards, Hans.
--
--------- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com _______________________________________________ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
-- Sjoerd Mullender
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-------- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled.
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---------- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com _______________________________________________ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
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Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
Nightly builds, for which we give no guarantee whatsoever, can be found at http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./. RPMs you may find there are, however, *guaranteed* to not work properly. They are built (if the build succeeds, for which there is no guarantee) using an incorrect method, and so do not work properly.
Is there something that I ( and others ) might be able to help with in order to get the daily rpms build fixed ? - KB
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
Nightly builds, for which we give no guarantee whatsoever, can be found at http://monetdb.cwi.nl/testing/projects/monetdb/Stable/.DailyBuilds./. RPMs you may find there are, however, *guaranteed* to not work properly. They are built (if the build succeeds, for which there is no guarantee) using an incorrect method, and so do not work properly.
Is there something that I ( and others ) might be able to help with in order to get the daily rpms build fixed ?
The problem is with the way our test environment is set up. When we test, all packages are installed using their own prefix. The spec files cannot deal with that. They expect all packages to be installed using the same prefix. When we build the official release, that is what we do. The reason for installing all packages in their own directory is so that we can see which packages produce which files. This is also checked by the test scripts. In other words, we know exactly what's wrong and how to fix it. Fixing it just screws up our testing setup. ;-) (Of course, this too is something we could fix, if we really wanted.) The official release is built quite differently from the nightly RPMs. The release is built using the mock package so that the build environment is guaranteed clean. This would be the correct way to build nightly packages, but the nights are too short to do this in addition to all the other building and testing we already do. But perhaps we should look into this path anyway. -- Sjoerd Mullender
Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
The official release is built quite differently from the nightly RPMs. The release is built using the mock package so that the build environment is guaranteed clean. This would be the correct way to build nightly packages, but the nights are too short to do this in addition to all the other building and testing we already do. But perhaps we should look into this path anyway.
Mock has an option that lets you setup a cache, and then maintain it for a fixed number of days, so perhaps one route would be / could to setup a cache per distro/release/arch and let it stay static for a few days, and run the builds inside there. Also, I am looking to build some packages for CentOS4 and CentOS5, if there are any spec changes will push them upstream to you guys. - KB
On 2009-05-14 15:08, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
The official release is built quite differently from the nightly RPMs. The release is built using the mock package so that the build environment is guaranteed clean. This would be the correct way to build nightly packages, but the nights are too short to do this in addition to all the other building and testing we already do. But perhaps we should look into this path anyway.
Mock has an option that lets you setup a cache, and then maintain it for a fixed number of days, so perhaps one route would be / could to setup a cache per distro/release/arch and let it stay static for a few days, and run the builds inside there.
We use that option of course. The problem is with the test environment which needs to be changed for this.
Also, I am looking to build some packages for CentOS4 and CentOS5, if there are any spec changes will push them upstream to you guys.
That would be appreciated.
- KB
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com _______________________________________________ MonetDB-users mailing list MonetDB-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/monetdb-users
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Bram Van Dam -
Fabian Groffen -
Hans van Rijswijk (DT) -
Karanbir Singh -
Sjoerd Mullender -
Stefan Manegold -
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